And what happened in all the backroom meetings, private conversations, and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? But I knew I needed to do it. She was powerful and wise., Similarly, popular marriage and sex author, Sheila Wray Gregoire, wrote to TRR, The idea that a man can only be happy in a marriage when a wife is weaker than him shows that his idea of manhood is an extremely fragile one., As reported by TRR earlier this week, Visconti has publicly announced that he is being mentored by James MacDonald, and MacDonald has preached at Generation Church numerous times this past year. In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. The elder board is still in the dark. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 This was a many time thing. A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. And today youre going to hear from a former insider at Harvest, former elder Dan George. . Christian counselor and author, Leslie Vernick, took exception to Viscontis post. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. And he said, you know, James Macdonald had requested that I come out to a meeting and he had requested Mike Dunwoody and one other elder Mark Hopwood was a longtime elder from Elgin that we would all join them for a meeting at seven oclock on that Thursday night. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. And then you know, you would categorize these things. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Yeah. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. Thats about my attitude lately. I called him. This was months months later. It was the elders failure. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. And I hope I hope that a lot of people have read that and they dont owe me anything, but I hope its been healing to them. No One Knows. I certainly am no Bible scholar. Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Hi. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. No one takes joy in doing this. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. So I asked the other elders, I said, I need to repent. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. The devil is at work. Like so many other cradle to present churched people, all I ever knew was the KJV Bible. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. And I said, Listen, I get it. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? But according. . And I did it. Visconti wins the Internet! And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. Julie, thank you for your excellent work in exposing that which is done in darkness, among the body of Christ. Is that an accurate representation? After you guys. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. It is not an ecclesiastical remedy at least not any longer. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. Why is that? . Wow! And I just felt this incredible weight. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. (Proverbs 27:12). And thats got to be a heavy. I mean, even though at this point, your eyes have been opened. But this is a story that just is not going away. This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. He would probably be wildly successful. My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . The Roys Report has over 78 articles dedicated to MacDonald and/or HBC, many of which were written by Roys. . Yes, I agree. I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? And what happened and all the backroom meetings, private conversations and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. "I was sitting in the back seat. Like, I cant believe this. Just look at King David . And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. You cant unconditionally support anybody. Ministry News. And they were praying in earnest this entire time. But for us not to act would be unbelief. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. None of those charges were looked into. He was in Walk in the Word studios apparently, and said some really vile things, including, you know, joking about putting child porn on a computer, joking about me having an affair with a Christianity Today editor, which has no basis in fact whatsoeve. And there is one thing we know about Satan. And I remember talking to another elder and I looked at him, he was almost in tears, saying, I cant believe were not going to do what Gods word says. And we talk about that Scripture and quote it over and over again. Im Julie Roys. Thank you for taking the stand that you did. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. And when I read that, I just shook my head. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? We did not hurry. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. But again, you push that issue, you got those letters. You have exemplified godly leadership and godly character. It wasnt an easy thing to do. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. SMH. He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. And then immediately after I felt that relief, I thought of Betsy Corning. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. There were voices raised. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. So were in the meeting. In the area (a south metro suburb of Minneapolis, MN ), that's just the average cost of a house. To myself, I said, and do our job. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. So its critically important that the truth be told. Because when you report on this for months, you feel the pain of the people that are involved. According to The Elephant's Debt (TED), a blog critical of MacDonald that launched in the summer of 2012, MacDonald was then taking a salary over $500,000, and living on a $1.9 million estate. How much do you make? I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. Julie can and has spoken for herself, but I must speak up against loaded questions like this. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. year. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. And that would have been right before you came back on the board. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. Jared Prayed for you just now. 1) Julie Roys. The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Not everybody had the physical letters, but we talked through what was in the letters. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. How does this relate to his view of women? Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. But would he have been able to save face do you think? When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. Who were all shameless self promoters. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? It does. Imagine such a thing. It was demonic. When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. Pastor James will provide answers in upcoming featured video posts. And I got it. And I listened to it. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. But some of these people, for 10 years or more, had been maligned. I wasnt looking forward to that. Search my early tweet history. Very interesting discussion. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. This man has been your pastor for decades. Thats what the weight was. So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. Dan, thank you for being a humble man of God. This wasnt anything else. Thats a Tuesday night. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. So what happened? Great! In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. I wish I didnt. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. Theres 30 men in the room. And you got all of them. And this was a spiritual battle. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. Do you expect ANYONE to say yes to your question. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. Need to repent and eventually, and phone calls leading up to that fateful event Wednesday, where James was. 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