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They're trying to be good participants. In a way we wait for it still. Uh, if I don't leave my house right now, I'm going to kill her." I think I call it pince-nez, so I'm not sure. And then, walks away from his child and his wife dead in the garden and says-. I've just got the, uh, the data from the Milgram. The authoritative record of New York Public Radio's programming is the audio record. Podcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? You're telling this [inaudible 01:02:30]. That's one of the things that we need to know. Sap in the next room just because they were being told to? Here's what he did. Hmm. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. And the way I killed her, I cared for her because I dated her for [inaudible 01:01:43]. And every scenario produced a different result. Just to back up for one second. You're bad." He even schemes against his own wife. Cruelty, violence, badness. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. That's my thing and that's where I'm going to stand on it. Yeah, well (laughing). He actually was very humiliated, uh, that Germany had lost. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. "This was exactly what was on my mind. And he hasn't talked about it with anyone until I interviewed him for the book. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? And they would circle yes or no. Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. Imagine they really had to administer shocks to themselves or something. They were gagging, they were choking; hundreds of them were falling to the ground like-. And then the final one-. By the way, that's reporter [Latif Nassar 00:30:59]. Yeah. He would dance around things. You know, he's a man adrift. Jeff Jensen's book is The Green River Killer, A True Detective Story. And while you're doing that, just give me your finger. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. And then, she said, "I actually did this. You can be sure of your purchase with Casper's 100 night risk-free sleep on it trial. Podcasts; . Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. Haber's gas troops, unscrew, they open the valves on almost 6,000 tanks, containing 150 tons of chlorine. So, in the end where do you come down? It is- it is arguably the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? Now, that right there, slap some quotations around that. We have nothing. And it gets even more disturbing for my father as the conversation suddenly pivots to another victim. Trim, nice mustache. And I used to socialize with him and- and his wife. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters. Bred from the air was the phrase. I would say in a powerful mood; we're close to some really fundamental truths about human nature. What he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. And once again, another nitrogen compound. in what is basically like the Baghdad of his time (laughing). Search metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search radio transcripts Search archived web sites Advanced Search. Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. I don't think I ever had a fantasy that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. But it's suspected that it could be upwards of 75. If I don't leave my house right now, I'm going to kill her." And that we're not going to be shocked with anything-. Yeah, well. There are hints of reasons. But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. We don't exactly know why. So basically, at 6 p.m. on April 22nd-. I mean, you know, it's just one of those things we've been bringing back shows that we think are just vibrating still in the world. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting at the thought that he had anything to do with zyklon B; but he did. Haber starts thinking, "In order to do this we need to pressure this, we need to put it under a lot of pressure.". Yeah (laughs). But what's clear is that he saw no reason to question what he had done and that infuriated Clara. This is how it describes what it does: 'Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. Whether it was feeding or killing or-, And he does. Y-P-R-E-S, Actually the Americans called it [inaudible 00:36:42]. Nobody had done what she was about to do on the scale that he was about to do it. But in experiment number three, if they put the shockee in the same room with the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person as the shockee. Let's begin with this story from our producer Pat Walters. He wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in US history. He knew about it. Thanks also to reporter Aaron Scott for that story. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. Warning. But that's not what he found. I knew what he was capable of, so I suggested that we go out for a walk. They reach back to the shelf and they find this zyklon stuff. Literally disappeared for six months and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. Especially when it came to one particular fact. When you needed to stop for breath, your hand ran light and steady. So, he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning and he leaves Germany, telling a friend he felt like he lost his homeland. So, you ask like, why do people do bad things? It has enough what they used to call then solar energy. Takes command of them partially. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? Well, Sam, what happened to this guy after World War I? Which is a- a fairly small, you know, a small sort of town. But I needed to kill her because of that. And that's all the difference in the world. How many of them went into that kind of detail? He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. You literally get a drip, drip, drip, of ammonia. Our food source then moves into our bodies. With AI, blockchain, and quantum technology, IBM is developing smart, scalable technologies that help businesses work better together. Clara comes from the same town. And according to some accounts, as it crept across no man's land-. The time now is 0836 hours. Come over now.". This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. So around the turn of the century for German scientists like Haber, this was the challenge. That's my opinion that's where I'm going to stand on it. They start disagreeing with each other. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. And it's moving in about one meter per second. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. So if you have kids in the room, maybe this is a time to tell them to go brush their teeth or something. All right, so I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? Let's just finish this. Was he trying to make a commentary, and so was he grappling with something? I'm about to help this quest for knowledge. So read these words that you see here. No one has a monopoly on bad. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial, quite literally. Is that like a green cloud? Up until that point, Gary refused to say, "That from the minute I picked these women up, I wanted to kill them." I think I call it [prince-nez 00:28:23], so I'm not sure. So, he decided he was going to invent a process to pay for these reparations by himself and what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into seawater, which contains, um, uh, some very small levels of gold. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. So, here's the interesting thing. Does everybody, at some point, have something dark in them that just tiptoes out, from time to time? His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. They were gagging, they were choking. "I need to kill because of that." Now, we're seeing about a 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year and that tonnages then moves into our food source. The same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. I dated her several times a year. So, who is- who is this guy right here? A lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people in the planet at that point, that maybe we were maxing out. Sixty-five percent-, To shock their fellow citizens, over and over again-. But if they were prepared to do that, when I suspect a lot of them would, then we'd say, "These are people who really believe in science, and isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society, who are willing to make sacrifices-. Yeah, I agree with that. You're bad. You know [crosstalk 00:25:00]. Under extreme, extreme pressure. And you've done this how many times before. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning. What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? Well talk about Fritz Haber. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal, which hasn't. And I designed a little, um, questionnaire where I simply ask the students, you know, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" Push button, get mortgage. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a free audiobook. Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. Jul 28, 2018 And then, and- So, he says that and you're like, "Okay. There's trench warfare. These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together, and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. It's absolutely essential. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. She says, "What happened today?" What makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? And oddly enough, we got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy-. Okay, we're going off tape now. It was about how far would these people go? It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? And he says, "Because of the rage." And Christensen, I dated her several times bef- three times- two times before. A lot of them are really positive even though they've just been told that they were duped. In any case-. Sep 21, 2018 . There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think, you know, when you are enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, what is greater and what is good? And 84 percent of the women. Now, why don't you just- what do you remember since we last talked in this interview? Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and the Alfred P Sloan Foundation. He's part of the club and he really, really relished it. Yeah, me too. Who are you?". What my father and his colleagues know is that something was done to these bodies; many of them after they were murdered. Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - The Gun Show 69:05 : Feb 23, 2018: The Curious Case of the Russian Flash Mob at the West Palm Beach Cheesecake Factory 00:00:00 : Feb 19, 2018: Smarty Plants 34:54 : Feb 13, 2018: Ghosts of Football Past 36:40 : Feb 3, 2018: Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - One Nation, Under Money 55:04 : Jan 31, 2018 And he finds her actually still alive, with the life about to run out of her. WNYC is America's most listened-to public radio station and the producer of award-winning programs and podcasts like Radiolab, On the Media, and The Brian Lehrer Show. And, uh, so does Clara. Ear drums, God. Leaving his son alone with his dead mother. No, because if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s, you could always go to a public hanging. And I used to socialize with him and his wife. I don't know, I can't help but feel bad for the guy. [inaudible 00:59:42] Christensen. Only then does God speak up and kind of say, like, "You're gonna question me?" Uh, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder and badness and all these things we're thinking about. He gets promoted to the rank of Captain. She says, "What happened today?" Science. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and . Right. These are people who are incredibly noble, they are. Support Radiolab today atRadiolab.org/donate. Something's happening to that man in there. So he plans to destroy Othello. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. So in the end, where do you come down? Why did you do this?" They're engaged with the task. Is that- is that nitrogen is trivalent. He walked out of the room and just started weeping. Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. The Bad Show.ogg download. [crosstalk 00:17:42], It's the experimenter-. And shortly after his return, Clara allegedly confronts him and says, "Look, you are morally bankrupt. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan are having a conversation, and they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution.". Wow. It's called Too Much Information. Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he had served in World War I-. One of those very tiny, old fashioned, uh, pair of glasses that would pinch on your nose. Thanks to all our great storytellers, Dan Charles, Sam Kean, Latif Nassar, Fred Kaufman, and Fritz Stern. Unusually so in those times. We're going off tape now. (beep) God. Okay? His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. That's correct, because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it, its trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy is released, it can be used for life or death. Direct your voice to the microphone in the room. When I said, "Goodbye." "I need to kill because of that." So, during World War I Haber's institute had developed a formulation of, um, insect killing gas called zyklon. Alex Haslem, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. Why did you take these women off the streets and want to destroy them? Terms and conditions apply. And you know there's nothing a closet full of clothes to help balance that out. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslem is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. "I just needed to kill because of that." So he starts experimenting. But as far as I know, there are none for Radiolab.I think I once read a statement from Jad and/or Robert that they view the show as an audio experience, and so believe it can't be captured in a transcript. They spent the next six months interrogating him, they brought in psychiatrists, and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. We should say that this next section of the program has some references which are extremely graphic and not to everybody's tastes. It's about 1880. We, as onlookers to this study, we have this kind of godlike sort of vision of like, "Well, of course, what they're doing is wrong." Of course, nobody wants to be killing other people; we realize this is hard work. Radiolab weaves stories and science into sound and music-rich documentaries. I mean, it's a pretty big thing to miss. Zyklon A, which was originally just a pesticide-. We've got to know now. How do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? I'm [Clemmy Buttonhill 00:26:56], I'm here to tell you about the Open Airs Project, the new podcast form WNYC studios and WQXR, in which people share stories about the classical music that gets them through their lives. But he does it with a kind of, uh, amoral athleticism. He's bad. Well I can use that same process-. And they go, "Why?" Those who could still breathe would turn blue. Shoots herself in the chest. And that's what Shakespeare did in all his plays. Does he- is he saying what I think he's saying? David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. And so, Satan basically systematically destroys Job's life, takes away his wife, his children, all his material possessions. God. It is a fair question to ask, "What are the conditions under which you, or me, or any of us could do-. But it wasn't until a few years later that he learned something that really put what happened that night into context. He was trying to repeat this masterstroke. What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? And, "Because women have stepped on me all my life." This is actually mean to be bad anyways. I do not stand alone. What you know you know. Yeah let's . [inaudible 01:00:01] is I- I went back one time before [inaudible 01:00:05] that I, uh, like I said, I got to get it out. Haber starts thinking, in order to do this we need to, uh, pressure this. He's standing there on the front pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell, and it becomes zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. He just kind of went crazy. "The experiment requires that you continue.". Under extreme, extreme pressure at high temperature, and then he forces hydrogen into the tank. Every time that guy got the word wrong. Where . RadioLab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. You know [crosstalk 00:10:58]. This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. Then he left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said yes. with Lulu Miller, and Latif Nasser. Speaker 2: Because Haber figured out a way to take nitrogen from the air, put it into the barren ground and grew wheat. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and set them upright at their dear friend's door. That was not a real shock. Yes, this is one of the things that sparked my interest in the topic of murder. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife. On the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's helped or fed, versus people he's killed, I mean he's fed billions of people. No 'cause if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s you could always go to a public hanging. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. Be right back. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. He's chomping on a Virginian cigar. Yeah. And the number of chemical reactions. That's what you do. His calculations showed that it couldn't be done. I have a choice, I'm not going to go ahead with it. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. So, he plans to destroy Othello. What you know, you know.". Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. Well what's the noble cause in this case? Why did you do this?" Go on please. You know, "I just want to kill her. Pince-nez, okay. And "Well, why the rage?" Radiolab: Lucy. I'm going to take a break. Look, the participants, it's not just blind obedience, "Oh you tell me so, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". What does it actually mean to be bad anyways? And then, he starts this period of roaming. Under some circumstances we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because" here's another flip "We don't have to be told. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some Radiolab credit. They will invariably say something like, "They show that people obey orders." The Bad Show Listen Transcript Image credits: Adam Cole Cruelty, violence, badness. You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this. Well, I can use that same process to make explosives because the thing that you put into the ground to grow more food is also the thing you can explode to make a bomb.". Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. Wasn't satisfying me, it made me mad that she was very much in a hurry, she had something else on her mind, and I killed her. Our staff includes Simon Adler, Maggie Bartholomew, Becca Bressler, Rachael Cusick, David Gebel, Ethel Hepti, Tracy Hunt, Matt Kielty, the lovely Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Latif Nassar, Malissa O'Donnell, Adrian Wack, Pat Walters, and Molly Webster. In graphic detail. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down Othello, but everybody. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. Let's expect more from technology, let's put smart to work, visit ibm.com/smart to learn more. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. Radiolab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science, technology in the modern world. Up until that point, Gary refused to say that "From the minute I picked these women up I wanted to kill them." The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. And he was someone who had very big ambitions. So you don't know? Bald on top. In case you've never heard of this, probably have, but in case you haven't, here's what he did. When you press one of these switches all the way down, the learner gets a shock. So my father and the other interviewer in that room that morning, Detective John [Matsen 00:58:19], they start using a line, a tact of interviewing that was very. Thanks. In those days if you're a convicted male felon, you are, you know, strung up by- You're not allowed to hang till you die. At this point, David's moved onto a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. Mm-hmm (affirmative), Mm-hmm (affirmative). How could you? And you tell us, "Actually, no. It's very important because if you ask university undergraduates what does the Milgram study show, they will invariably say something like "They show that people obey orders" okay? She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. Um, with a black belt in karate. Even when they go along with the experiment-. But what if something's happened to the man. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter-, Killed her. Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. He was always smoking his Virginian cigars. Radiolab for Kids Presents: Terrestrials A show where we uncover the strangeness right here on Earth Romeo y Julieta A World Premiere Bilingual Audio Play. When I stand before you, judges of Israel, in this court [Foreign 00:12:14] to accuse Adolf Eichmann [Foreign 00:12:18], I do not stand alone. Continue using the last switch on the board, please. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. I'm going to resign.". As soon as it did, soldiers began to convulse. My dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. Two more minutes. It's 9:24 hours on June 17th, year 2003. Necrophilia. The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. Quite literally. Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. Okay. By this point, David moved on to a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. And he is celebrated for it. He goes straight to the German high command, and he pitches this idea. Like, he didn't intend for that to happen. And "Because women have stepped on me all my life." This actually brings us to our first top of the hour, so just to set it up, Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. Yes, it's awesome, thank you, Ben. Now, we don't actually know if he threw a party. I really want to do a good job.". He is a soldier. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. But this was a moment in German history, he says, when Jews had a decent amount of freedom. You're not the first one. They reached back to the shelf and they find this Zyklon stuff. If the experiment- if the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". And actually this wasn't just a German thing, a lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people on the planet, at that point, that maybe we were maxing out, that the earth couldn't support this many people. And not just yeses. And then, Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering her with a pillow. Do you leave this experiment in a light mood or in a dark mood overall? When we asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60 percent. And that's what Shakespeare did in all of his plays. But Haber saw it as a wonderful success and wished- wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it because he felt like they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. I'm Robert Krulwich. And even though, in the end, they got him to confess to these 49 murders, they never really get any closer to an answer than this first one. In a rage how? "It's okay to admit this, you need to admit this.". You're telling us all this. So in the Milgram case. But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for; and in a way we wait for it still, even now. Right. 'cause actually he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. And I designed a little questionnaire where I simply asked the students, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" We want what Elizabethan's got at the scaffold, which was a confession. He felt publicly humiliated. The son eventually after he immigrates to America kills himself. Uh, when- when asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60%. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. The prods. I'm going to resign.". Because if they're going to record it, I mean I'm going to record it here to but [inaudible 00:27:30]. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. They've got a- a very plausible, very credible high status scientist at a high status scientific institution. And my views about human nature are that it affords infinite potential for lightness and dark. To feed about 30 million people. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. More energy than seemed, like, possible to make. His health is failing in 1934, he takes a trip to Switzerland to a sanatorium-. So, they sit down in the chair thinking, "Wow. He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. Despite the chlorine gas. He was trying to repeat this master stroke. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. He, ultimately, spent 17 years searching for this man. The son, eventually, after he emigrates to America kills himself. He figured maybe one percent of these men would keep flicking the switches, up to the highest voltage. That's historian, Fritz Stern, who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. Our frenemy, uh, Fritz Haber. Really? The one that everybody knows, the so called baseline. A lot of them are like, "This is not how you fight a war.". Horrified like, "Oh my God, my students are murderers?" On the other hand, if anyone could do it-. Hmm. And now that we're sort of just on the other side of that. Wow. RadioLab is supported by Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. Then he goes and, you know, and celebrates that. He's bald, he has a potbelly, he has these pince-nez spectacles, he's chomping on a Virginian cigar, he was always smoking these Virginian cigars and he's wearing a fur coat. 1933 comes. And what makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? This is sort of chilling comparison, which is a speed that Himmler gave to the SS, some SS leaders, when they were, uh, about to commit a range of atrocities. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. Visit rocketmortgage.com/radiolab. They're going to record it okay. We just got to get ov- get out of it where-. He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. [1] Radiolab was founded by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich in 2002. That the earth couldn't support this many people. 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